Weiand 8004 Aluminum Intake Manifold 327 350 Chevy. It's putting 390HP to the rear wheels through a TH-350 automatic, so that's about 470-480HP at the flywheel, depending on whose conversion factor you beleive. I had just changed them and the oil prior to going to the dyno. Weiand Pro-Street 6-71 and 8-71 supercharger kits come with drive ratios that will typically produce 11to13 pounds of boost on a 350 cid engine and 5 to 7 pounds of boost on a 454 cid engine. seems like that motor without the blower should make that same power (around 485 at the crank) with proper timing. The wagon was an absolute tire-roaster afterwards though. All I ever heard about was these motor turn out 500+ HP. I think those numbers are respectable for rear wheel HP readings. 17/18 Just wondering what kind of issues you have had with them. I took my car and had it tuned on the dyno and like most guys, I was a little disappointed in the numbers. The Weiand roots type blowers have been around for decades and are proven technology. Did a couple of passes after getting the jets and power value correct. We left the timing were it was. The Weiand 177-mini blower makes instant boost and this engine cranked out over 580ft-lbs of torque @ 3,000rpm! How much converter? For starters, I have a fresh built 383 sbc, 4bolt main, forged rods and Pistons. Hp from tires are about 80% from engine, I've been told. Re: weiand 174 on a 302 « Reply #11 on: March 12, 2011, 09:12:57 am » ics titan copper head gasket that does not need o ring heads or block and come with 40, 50 ,60 ,70 ,80,thou thick head gaskets and you can use them and the msd boost timing master and i use a snow performance water/methonal injection just to be safe than sorry About 6 months ago I picked up a weiand 142 blower, bolted that little guy up to my motor. The disappointing part is the numbers the motor turned out. I ran a 144 blower for a while. Big Block Chevy Supercharger (B&M/Weiand 174) Weiand 177 PRO Supercharger. As far as brand? If that is the questions. Daily driver motor for my 1968 Camaro coupe. That work continues today through Holley’s market-leading EFI products as well as through Holley’s family of best-in-industry brands. 12 And here's the 8-inch pulley pull compared to the best naturally aspirated dyno pull. Lots of horsepower for little money can make you happy, but it's not always easy to find. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Best pull was 389HP and 394 torque. Dyno is your typical Dyno-Jet spin-the-big-roller deal. For starters, I have a fresh built 383 sbc, 4bolt main, forged rods and Pistons. It's in my 78 Malibu (my Grandmother's old car with 35K original miles!) These sections will be clearly marked. 65 Chevelle, ZZ502 with 11,2:1cr and 242/252 110 cam. In addition, low-profile designs are also available to provide added hood clearance in tight engine compartments. Run a tight quench area to stop detonation and it will be one tuff combo. Dart pro 1 aluminum heads, full Rollers, 1.6 rockers. Weiand Supercharger to manifold gasket 174. Using the supplied 3-inch blower pulley and 6-inch crank pulley, the Weiand 177 supercharger produced a peak of 6.3 psi and increased the power output of the 350 to 405 hp and 446 lb-ft of torque. Awendal's blower looks like the Weiand version of the 6-71 to me. The mechanic said with as much compression as I am running we didn't want to get to much timing in it. We built up a Dart 454 big-block, grabbed a couple of Weiand blowers, and headed over to Westech Performance in Mira Loma, California, for some dyno time on their Superflow 902. http://s583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/01ws6bird/, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Timing is 12deg with a total of 18*. See our additional drive ratio charts at the end of this section. The engine was not dyno’d afterwards, and the oil pump went out about a month later, requiring a crate motor swap. I do want to make sure I am maximizing the motors capabilities. Weiand 177 Mini Blower Would you pay $1,660 for an extra 112 hp and 101 lb-ft? What pulleys are you running? 9.8” Polished Weiand Blower Intake Manifold. Really is to small for a 383. 4” Snout Pulley. WEIAND does not assume that responsibility. Weiand’s complete line of cutting edge intake manifolds, superchargers and accessories, and high-flow water pumps are designed and tested to deliver maximum performance on street and race applications. Cam selection for that blower has to be dead on as well. Timing is way off as well. The 177 should have no problem pushing you over 500HP on the 383. In addition, low-profile designs are also available to provide added hood clearance in tight engine compartments. Is the cam for a forced induction build !! Intake manifold gasket set (7620/7621 – Mr. Gasket P/N 5827 or 7622/7623 – Mr. Gasket P/N 5817) is recommended Valve cover gasket set (Mr. Gasket P/N 177 or 182) Thermostat housing gasket (Mr. Gasket P/N 740C,738G) We Bolt on a Weiand 142 Blower and Make 470 hp. My original 383 did 482 RWHP @ 10 lbs boost. I took my car and had it tuned on the dyno and like most guys, I was a little disappointed in the numbers. A matched cam to the blower and headers would be worth the money. For over a century Holley has driven the cutting edge of fuel-system design. Adding the Weiand 177 supercharger to the 383 stroker increased the power output to 594 hp and 521 lb-ft at just 2.8 psi. Timing is 12deg with a total of 18*. Did you try more timing? I've had my car for almost a year and got to thinking about blower maintance today. Come join the discussion about restorations, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Today, Weiand produces unmistakable power-building components. If your engine is … What I gathered from most responses is my timing is to low. 177. I looked for some info on the weiand site and it does mention that on the 177 your suppose to check the oil in the front portion of the blower but the back is a … In the case of our ever dependable Scoggin-Dickey supplied Goodwrench Quest 350, we had come upon an impasse. http://s318.photobucket.com/albums/mm436/540Hotrod/?action=view¤t=Jim3.mp4, http://hinksonautomotive-cncblocks.com/shop-tour/, http://hinksonautomotive-cncblocks.com/specials/, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD3tlarmKEQ, http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230714, http://documents.holley.com/techlibrary_supercharger_tech_info.pdf, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Use a nitrous/blower grind type cam in the 236 degree@.050 range. Note that throughout these instructions, there may be sections that only apply to certain supercharger models or certain engines. Dyno testing just done on the 8125 shows about 6-8 peak HP and 5-7 ft/lbs peak torque gain over a 2101 intake on a 290 HP crate 350 with Q-jet, AFB, and Holley spreadbore carbs. That blower is a little small. Weiand's Pro-Street superchargers represent a significant leap in technology for obtaining substantial performance gains while maintaining drive ability and reliability. I guess I can reply to my own question :yes: I just went out and unscrewed what I thought was the filler plug and it has a dip stick. "For those that will fight for it...FREEDOM ...has a flavor the protected shall never know.". All that said and done I took it to the shop to make sure it was dialed in. Thanks in advanced... How much boost was it making? Currently running 5lbs of boost. As far as how the car runs, it runs great, no issues. The air file mixer is almost perfect through the whole power curve. kinda of been thinking of trying one out. '67 Vette-555"/Gforce 5 Spd/Dana 60 IRS-3.07's. Meant only for a BBC and is capable of 600HP plus depending on the pulley set up. When I built the motor I had no intentions of adding a blower. Not much room but much more power avalible with a 250 v.s. JavaScript is disabled. My suggestion is to find a reverse dome/D-shaped dome piston in the 8.5-9.0 CR range. For sale is very low use and looks the part Weiand 256 Blower / Supercharger. It was a chassis dyno. Those numbers are from the tires. The 177 supercharger is designed for engines that are modified and can take advantage of the extra flow capacity. The 177 should fit under your Montes hood. This is a 256ci displacement blower. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! The Weiand supercharger gave us a gain of almost 150 lb-ft of torque down at 3,000 rpm. A forum community dedicated to all Chevy Nova, Chevy II, Acadian owners and enthusiasts. Love that sound! I looked for some info on the weiand site and it does mention that on the 177 your suppose to check the oil in the front portion of the blower but the back is a sealed unit. Taking my 144 Weiand-blown 350 Chevy motor for its first engine dyno run. A forum community dedicated to Chevrolet Chevelle owners and enthusiasts. What brand of dyno? Seems like that motor WITHOUT the blower should make that same power (around 485 at the crank) with proper timing. Performance between the Weiand 177 vs 144 … 03. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I don't want to push the motor to the max every time I drive. Weiand Pro Street; Supercharger Kit 6502 1. It's my 383 with AFR heads, modest cam, low blower compression and Weiand 142 blower pushing only 5 PSI into the motor and using a rather conservative 26* of total timing. 256ci Weiand Blower. Thanks to everyone for all the input. If you are spinning that blower to fast to make boost the heat will kill the power. I am running a 1800stall and 5lbs of boost. It's bolted up to a turbo 350, transco shift kit, 3:55 gears (eaton limited slip). I'm guessing you mean engine or chassis? Any HELPFUL input or insite would be great. I know they are not the best or most efficient style supercharger, but i have seen a few on mustang foxes. We did pull the plugs and they were looking nice and clean. and is degreed in ? Methinks you have good numbers @5lbs boost. Weiand has been a high performance power source since creating the first ever aluminum intake manifold in 1937! Weiand also makes a 250 blower that is quite a bit lower than the 6-71 style. I'm running the smaller Weiand 142 on a mild 383 with AFR heads right now. Use some good aluminum 64cc chamber heads with 180-200cc runners. But if you want to maximize your power then call Chris about your cam. Anyone have any real numbers with simalur set up? Check out how and why you would want to swap your manifold for a Roots Blower, in which it the Roots-style blower ensures you to get maximum cfm as early as possible, in Car Craft Magazine. I will double check That and maybe play around with it a bit. Tom Terrific or Terrible Tom, depending on the phase of the moon, passing cosmic rays or other factors not fully understood except by my wife. Motor runs great. About Us. This is my first stoker motor. But I was under the impression I would be closer to the 600hp range. I've never had a car with a blower before this one. I've never had a car with a blower before this one. 7TH SERIES OF DYNO TESTS ... the engine made in its blower-prepped configuration. WEIAND SUPERCHARGER INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS PART A This set of instruction sheets applies to all WEIAND small block and big block Chevrolet supercharger installations. Faster you spin that blower the more hot air will be forced into the motor. I can tell you the 142 blower is made for a stock 350. I'm not sure. JavaScript is disabled. Boost is good. The 177 on a 350 will make good power. Weiand 177 Pro Street Superchargers. Comp cam "custom" grind cam (I can't tell you specs because I can't find the card). It has a static compression of 10:1. And test 20 shows the power we made at maximum boost with the Weiand 177-cid blower installed. Plus it still pulled hard to 6,200rpm where it peaked with 628hp on just 7.6-psi boost. Weiand's 177 Pro Street supercharger kits are engineered to give you a 25-40 percent gain in power - while maintaining outstanding streetability. Did you read plugs to see what "timing mark" on plugs looked like? Currently running 5lbs of boost. 5 comp all forged bottom end, Edelbrock RPM heads NX262H cam 177 weiand with a 750 holley vac secoundry boost referenced with 80 jets in the primary for. You can run single carb with a 250 but might not reach a high HP number with a single carb. Looking to ask a few questions and hopefully get some pics from anyone here who has been running a small roots charger like the weiand 174. The kind that seem to be everywhere these days. Dart pro 1 aluminum heads, full Rollers, 1.6 rockers. As others have stated, torque convertor selection and further engine tuning can make a difference. Stepping up to a 7.0-inch crank pulley resulted in a jump to 452 hp and 492 lb-ft of torque. Weiand's 177 Pro Street supercharger kits are engineered to give you a 25-40 percent gain in power - while maintaining outstanding streetability. What we needed was more blower speed to step the boost pressure up. 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